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Goal: Transparency--to let you watch the evolution and unfolding of this situation.

4/26 Update:  Regarding your letters of advice and offers of money,

              An excerpt from a letter to a friend:

 

You are utterly right that we could try to avoid annoying those who are against advocacy for victims. But the bottom-line fact is that what they are angry about IS the website. That has been indicated since at least last summer. The only thing that is going to make them quit abusing us is for us to STOP the website. The only thing that might make them quit kicking Mother while she is down with cancer and chemo, is for us to stop the website.

 

There is no way for us to "get them off our backs" as you put it, except to stop the site. The survivors are important to us; the kids who might not "get got" in the future are important to us. The fact that we solemnly promised God we would do this, is important to us. We can't sell out, not even for our own "comfort or safety" as you put it. Would you walk away from your kids for the sake of your own comfort and safety?

 

Especially we will not be two nuns WHO SELL OUT. There's been too much selling out. Selling out has been at the core of the problem.

 

There are three absolutes: we belong to God, we will not stop the website, and we will not accept money from survivors. To stop the site, which seems the only thing that will satisfy those against our advocacy for victims, is tantamount to letting them force us to join them in their sell-out.

 

To accept money from survivors would be to further use them, to benefit from their original abuse. If they had not been abused by nuns and priests of the Church, they would not even know of us. Therefore, for us to take a money gift from a survivor is to receive money and to benefit, indirectly, but no less, because that person was abused by a nun or priest, and further abused by the hierarchy's criminal cover-up and wrong response to victims' cries for help.

 

To benefit from the sexual abuse of a vulnerable adult or a kid would make me as dirty as if i did the abuse myself.

 

i hope with all my heart that you can understand this. We just cannot accept money from survivors no matter what, because it will make us benefit from the rape of kids. That would kill my soul in ways that i could not survive.

 

i know you are right that we are further angering those who harm us when we make public what they are doing to us. i believe you are right that all we can do is deprive them of their goal of bullying us into silence so that they can do their wrong-doing more comfortably. You are right that all we do is deprive them of the luxury of that cloak of silence under which they more easily do their deeds.

 

This is something i have learned from a few extra-dear friends who were abused while in Catholic-run institutions: one thing the perp cannot stand is when his or her POWER is made impotent. One of the survivors of horrid nuns and priests running an orphanage finally screamed, "I'll tell! I'll tell! I'll tell!" And she wrote it all in a book. She told. And the perp's POWER to scare her into shut-up-ness was gone for the first time. And she was free.

 

This, i think, is extremely important:

 

The perp harms the kid's body with the physical-ness of the assault, and the kid can never, even decades later, change that.

 

The perp harms the victim's mind with the betrayal of trust, and the survivor can never, even decades later, change that. Heal it, yes. But change it, no.

 

The perp harms his victim's soul with forcing the person to keep silent, keep secret, but the victim can change that. Even decades later.

 

The perp assaults the kid's soul by manipulating her or him into not screaming, for the sake of the perp. The kid's soul is harmed because it is being manipulated into unwillingly-helping the perp to hurt him. That is forced-self-destruction, which is contrary to our God-created survival instinct. For some reason, that harms the soul.

 

Being forced by the perp's manipulation, to help the perp to harm us, by not telling, forces the victim from the very start to be self-destructive, forces the victim to act contrary to our most basic survival instinct, and that somehow harms us at the level of the soul. That thing, however, the victim can change. Even decades later.

 

If not right away, as the abuse is happening, years later, we can tell. If we are still alive, we can tell. We cannot change the assault on our bodies. We cannot change the assault on our minds. We cannot change the assault on our souls, as long as we keep silent and don't tell.

 

But the very moment we tell, we stop that on-going assault on our souls. We make the perp impotent to continue to touch our souls, ever again.

 

It is, i suspect, why the memories finally come back, and why one is then driven, to tell. Obstacles and impossibilities put most victims into a hellish approach-avoidance roller-coaster-position in regard to telling. None the less s/he is driven "to tell". When we tell, (even just one person, secretly, in total confidentiality, never to be made public) somehow, it seems to me, we save our souls. The perp's drooling clutch upon it is gone.

 

Hence, i must tell publicly on the website of their abuse of innocent victims and i must tell of their bullyings of us, lest by our silence, we make it easier for the perps to perpetrate their harm and easier yet for them to cover it up.

 

i know you are concerned and care about us and we are both grateful for it. Your love means more than i can convey. Please do keep clear that victims and survivors are not the cause of our being mistreated by the bullies. The cause of our being bullied is with the bullies themselves. It is not our fault and it is surely not your fault.

 

Bullying is the fault of the bully. Always. Abuse is the fault of the abuser. Always.

 

 

 



Our e-mail still occasionally experiences difficulty "coming and going". Please do not fear that we are ignoring you. Please keep trying. God Bless You.

Our e-mail address is thenuns@earthlink.net   If you care to, you are welcome to contact us there. 

                 Update Sunday April 24, 2005         
             ~ it would seem another typical   
               silent-slap of Mother by the bishop~      

            ~ yet one more disgusting example ~

 

This is another example, anecdotal evidence of a sort, of how sleazy-seedy-hotel-dirty, and vicious, the victims of sexual abuse in our church can find their bishops' hardball tactics to be:

 

Since Mother's diagnosis and surgery and chemo, we have had to shut down the kennel until after she recovers from the last chemo. We only earned $5000 from the kennel last year, but the business was growing and we live frugally. Nonetheless, there will be no income from the kennel this year. 

 

At the same time, most of the monastery's benefactors have ceased to send donations. (Please, we remind all survivors NOT to send us any money; we cannot and will not accept it.)

 

Because of the financial situation, Mother has, between doctor and chemo and bloodwork appointments and between prayers and chemo-required-sleep sessions, been sending a fundraising letter to various philanthropic foundations. She has explained the situation and asked for a one-time modest donation to help the monastery through this year. (You can read that funding letter at the top of the Helping Hands page of the website, listed to the left toward the bottom of the navigation bar.)

 

We took a walk today to check for the tom turkeys who often graze in the field and to check for yesterday's mail. We had received a response from the National Religious Retirement Office, one of the foundations listed in the funding book.

 

It contained these paragraphs: "Our procedure in instances such as this is to contact the diocese for clarification. I did speak this morning with Father J. Vann Johnston, Chancellor of the Knoxville Diocese. He explained to me that your canonical status is that of a consecrated virgin.

I am sorry to tell you that the parameters established by our Board do not allow us to include consecrated virgins in the distributions from the annual collection for retired religious. I have no doubt that your need is very real, but the National Religious Retirement Office regrettably is unable to assist."

 

What this seems to indicate is that the bishop, via his chancellor, is blocking our successfully obtaining funding that will keep the monastery "afloat" till chemo is over, by saying we are not real.

 

This, though the previous bishop, the pedophile anthony o'connell himself, wrote glowing letters about us and on our behalf to these philanthropic foundations. He himself, along with the long-time canon lawyer abbot who assisted him regarding our canonical vows, indicated that we were fully nuns and Our Lady of Little Citeaux fully a monastery. Of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

 

Indeed, that same bishop requested his diocesan lawyer represent us, in proving we are a monastery of nuns. Is the current bishop, or his chancellor, now indicating that the previous bishop and his diocesan lawyer were lying? Not just to us. But in a court of law of our country?  Actually perjuring themselves? 

 

How pathetically petty it appears that the gossip is perhaps being spread that we are not really nuns and only think we are. Sortof like  we were in the Special Olympics and thought that meant we had won the International Olympics.

 

If that is one of the current tactics to pressure us into abandoning the website, how petty, how unethically hard-ball, and how immaturely little-boy it appears.

 

What is chillingly sinister, though, is that it would appear the bishop via his chancellor is literally trying to interfere with our very survival. That wears the sinister flavor of evil.

 

Surely it is not indicative of a loving Jesus.

 

All that viciousness to silence the Truth on our website for victims. 

 

Survivors of church sex abuse, who turn to their bishops, for help from their despair, are sadly un-surprised at the bullying being perpetrated upon Mother at her most vulnerable.

 

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Update 4/19 after chemo number two—at 100%

 

Thank you, from my heart, to all of you who email to ask after MoV and to send your prayers and advice and hopes and caring, and to voice your outrage at how she's being bullied. You are family to us. You show the face of God to us. We are grateful.

 

Mother had her second chemo yesterday and did well with it. The nurses are so compassionate and so skilled in that chemo infusion unit. It is such a comfort, for one does not need to watch-dog and double-check to be sure things are as they should be. One does not have to wonder and worry about some detail she doesn't understand, but simply ask and they know the answer, know how to teach the concept involved, and are graciously-giving about it.

 

i suggested MoV ask her nurse why the first infusion of chemo had been at 75%. It was a perfect example of what i said above about the nurses having the answers to smooth the way so healing can happen. They also, unappreciated by most doctors, can save the very skin of the unsuspecting doctor, on occasion…

 

At the last post-op doctor visit, (and keep in mind that her doctor is our absolute hero; actually she has two doctors and both truly are our heroes.) Anyway, happenstance would have it that he said to her that he had started her chemo a bit earlier than usual so that the chemo could kill the metastasis to her lung so the fluid would not build up so she would not need to undergo more thoracenteses to aspirate the pleural fluid so that she could breathe.

 

i noted her nearly imperceptible nod, yes, good ol'-doc-sweeney would be expected to be able to handle chemo earlier than normal. She does most things bigger, earlier, and heartier, than the norm. So when her surgeon said he'd started her chemo a tad early, ol'-doc-sweeney concurred with his medical wisdom.

 

Then he added that he'd ordered that first dose at 75%. He is sharp, but he didn't catch her nearly imperceptible stiffening. i stepped back a bit from the exam table. Her gaze, fixed on some point in the room, shifted focus sharply to his face. The chemo-induced ruddiness of her cheeks paled and i stepped back a bit further, sort of easing toward the doctor, in case he should need me. She glanced at me about this Seventy-five-Percent. i smiled sickly. She eased down and i prayed thanksgiving. 

 

i hoped that perhaps during the few-week-duration between this office visit and the next one, she might forget about the 75% thing. But as soon as she'd been seated in the infusion unit yesterday for chemo #2,  before her nurse even had time to push the benadryl and pepcid, ol'-doc-sweeney asked, "Did he order the hundred percent this time?" and i knew then she would die at 123 years old without forgetting that 75% thing.

 

Not because she thought it meant she was getting less medicine than she needed. It had nothing to do with appropriate care.

 

It had to do with her doctor thinking she could only handle 75% of the norm. 75% is average. Average. 75%. Sweeney…not. The surgeon who had literally excised the cancer-enemy away, the doctor who had literally seen her guts, must think she could only handle ¾ of the norm. Seventy-five percent.

 

So when she asked her nurse about that 75% and the nurse had explained that because the doctor had trusted her to do extra-well as she had all along, he had started her chemo earlier than normal. (i noted the almost imperceptible nod…).

 

Her nurse explained further that, since MoV had not had time for her cells to entirely heal from surgery, the chemo at 75% allowed for the post-operative healing to complete while still giving chemo to attend to the cancer cells—earlier than the norm.

 

One saw ol'-doc-sweeney smile. And one knew that her nurse had possibly just "saved the neck" of her doc. And one knew neither one of them would ever even realize it….

 

Then her nurse added that indeed this dose had been ordered at 100%. One saw ol'-doc-sweeney smile larger yet.

 

And then, when one would think that smile could get no larger, through the door yet another nurse, carrying a menu, with which MoV was invited to select lunch. "Oh, I get lunch again this time?" she asked through a smile so large that one knew chemo-#2-day-at-100%-with-lunch-even, would be one of the extra-extra-good days this April.

 

Nonetheless, it is ironic that a two-hour trip—to a city—to a hospital—for  chemotherapy—for metastatic cancer, can be an experience to which we look forward.

 

It is, i see on reflection and analysis, a matter of love. There are folks there who love her.

 

There are folks there whose words of caring are matched by their actions.

 

When actions match words, truth is obvious. When words stand alone, unsupported by actions, usually the words are just façade, a smoke screen to mask the truth. When words stand alone, actually contradicted by actions, truth is not. There are folks at that hospital whose words of caring are matched by their actions.

 

It seems ironic that just as the bishop, priest, and a few parishioners are beating the hell out of her, kicking the dog while it is down, as down as a cancer-fighter-weakened-by-chemo can be, and just as most parishioners sit complacently by and allow it or, in some cases, actively support it as they flock to the hems of the hierarchy, we find the love of God at Memorial Hospital.

 

In the folks of every department there, we find the love of God. We have been there enough by now to have received care from nearly all of them i think.

 

There are gentle men cleaning the corridors, who smile or speak with gentle respect not just to this old nun who is fighting the battle for her life. These gentlemen, who nod and speak to the patients who go by, make up for the parish priest who told her that he no longer respects her.

 

There are willing volunteers, one of whom wishes her a "sparkling day", truly meaning it. These volunteers who, for the most part, are happy to see her, make up for the ill-actions of the parish priest and bishop.

 

There are a few men and women at that hospital who know of the commitment we've made to God to advocate for church sex abuse survivors and they do not hate MoV for it, but respect and love her.

 

They love her all the more for it, not despite it.

 

Digression: what a statement of horror that makes: if there are those who hate us this much for advocating for survivors, to what degree must they hate those poor survivors themselves? Those types are precisely why survivors so often say how shamed they are made to feel, for having been a little kid victim of a nun's or priest's psychosocial sexual perversion perpetrated upon them. When they were too little and too young and too vulnerable and too innocent to even comprehend what was happening to them. Still the question remains: why is it that these pro-sexual-abuser-types so devoutly defend all those adult sexually predatory criminals and hate their innocently unsuspecting child victims? It's all so psychotically and evilly backwards.

 

At any rate, a patient could hardly feel hated at Memorial where folks make it easy to see the face of Jesus. These visibly-Christian people are the professional, paraprofessional, and non-professional regular-folks, the type persons about whom one says, "he is good people" or "she is the salt of the earth". These are the people because of whom hope can grow.

 

Those folks do not hate MoV for our website. They don't make a point of telling her that they disrespect her. They don't make a point of disrespecting her. They don't try to make her recovery from cancer more difficult. They don't figure she "deserves it", for our website for victims of priest and nun sexual abuse. They don't abuse her.

 

They love her. It is the most healing thing about Memorial Hospital. The love. God is love. And from my observations, at Memorial, Love is God.

 

The actions match the words.

 

So, we have been led to Memorial at a time when we can no longer go comfortably to our own long-loved parish church, because the priest has said he does not respect Mother, because the priest, either alone or "in concert" with others, indeed stripped her of being Eucharistic minister and Lector, as retaliation and punishment for her praying aloud for victims and to bully her to stop the website. (Sad deduction: It would seem these guys will find a way to strip and rape the innocent at their most-vulnerable, one way or another …)

 

We can no longer comfortably go to our chosen parish church because the leader of the little flock there accused her of giving scandal, for her prayer at the Prayer of the Faithful "that the Church show the compassionate face of Christ to those it has abused", and because it would seem, he then judged her guilty of…what? And because it would seem, he then sentenced her for it, and likewise it seems, carries out his sentence week to week. Mass to Mass.

 

And because, other than the folks who have sent cards of prayer and do immense acts of kindness to make her chemo phase easier, most folks do not indicate they care what the parish priest is doing to her, simply because they don't. (That is the sort of sad reality that the poor church abuse survivors experience most days of their lives, only worse by far, magnified as it is by the immense numbers of those uncaring. We have learned that at most Masses, victims and survivors are devoutly-not-prayed-for as much as they devoutly-are-not at our little parish church.)

 

So, ironically, at a time when the much-needed love of one's parish-family is sadly overshadowed and choked-down by these actions of the parish priest and his devotees, just as love there seems at a twelve-year low-ebb, unexpectedly, in the compassionate provision of Providence, at Memorial Hospital, we find God really is, with his most-healing gift, Love.

 

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April 03, 2005 Update:

Second Sunday of Easter ~ Divine Mercy Sunday

 

At the Easter Vigil last Saturday, the priest did not put on the beautiful white and gold chasuble to celebrate the Resurrection of our Lord.

 

As far as i could discern, he also did not put on Christ.

 

Today, as i recall, we did not hear about Resurrection nor, for that matter, about the Lord of the Resurrection.

 

We were told, however, that the-Holy-Father-Never-Changed-Church-Doctrine and we were told, further, that no-pope-ever-will.

 

That declaration was sealed with the priest's arrogant: "And you might as well get that through your heads."

 

Does loving Abba speak that way? Does Jesus speak that way?

 

We do read in Scripture that He spoke that way to the religious leaders of the time who were not doing their jobs…..

 

Did we ever hear Jesus, the Divine Mercy Incarnate, speak to his flocks of hungering thirsting thousands, like that?

 

March 29th Update:

 

Nope. Mother was not re-instated as a Eucharistic minister to distribute the Precious Blood of our Lord, nor was she permitted to read Scripture. 

 

Three hours after i begged the priest to allow that, the bishop called, saying he had heard indirectly that perhaps Mother was having some health problems and that he "stood ready".....

 

i begged him too, to re-instate her. He said that he doesn't appoint Extraordinary Ministers--he only approves them. i went directly to the point, and begged him to allow what was needed for her good. 

 

At one point, he said he would "reflect on our conversation" and perhaps speak with the priest. His voice sounded sincere and i said that to him. i then added that i was probably just being a fool once again to believe that. Sure enough....Angela the Fool.

 

Folks at Easter Vigil Mass came up to me afterwards to tell me that they had decided i was wrong. Others who used to support our advocacy for survivors told me that they now believe the bishop wants to help Mother.

 

All of this would go smoothly, all-of-a-sudden, one suspects,if our website in advocacy for survivors and victims of sexual abuse at the hands of priests, nuns, and the bishops who facilitate and hide them, were to be discarded.

 

Mother, who had her first chemo yesterday, says to tell you, dear and beloved Survivors, we will not sell out. She will not sell out for the thirty pieces of silver and she will not kiss your cheek with betrayal, as Judas did our Lord. She will not betray her Lord and she will not betray you.

 

Today is the anniversary of her solemn vows to the Lord. She gives you that gift for her anniversary.

 

Holy Thursday, March 24th Update:

 

If anyone can help us, we will appreciate it.

 

On January 5th Mother prayed at the Prayer of the Faithful during Mass that the Church show the compassionate face of Christ to those whom it has abused. Shortly later, at the hand of the priest or the bishop and priest or the bishop-and-priest-and-one-or-more-parishioners, Mother was forbidden to be Lector to read Scripture at Mass and we were both stripped of our Eucharistic Ministry to the parishioners. All without a word spoken, in typical Church Hierarch slinking slimey silence. Sleazy.

 

On Ash Wednesday Mother sought medical help for what we thought was pneumonia with shortness of breath. In a matter of days, she had over two quarts (2200 cc) of fluid removed from her lung and we were advised it was likely cancer.

 

Within a week or two of that, she was diagnosed with likely adeno- carcinoma of the ovaries. Shortly later, surgery done in the best hospital in this country, by the best surgeon in the country, and probably in God's whole earth, revealed stage four cancer of the ovaries with positive nodes and metastasis to lung.

 

More than one of her health care providers said to me that while it did not cause the cancer, this persecution by the priest, bishop, and perhaps some parishioners, certainly did contribute to the seriousness of her disease and that it would contribute to a less than optimal outcome of the chemotherapy she is to begin on Monday after another surgery to insert the port for the chemo meds.

 

i have been contacting parishioners, hoping that since they have  loved her for over twelve years and have benefitted from her reading of Scripture at Mass and have received Communion from her hand and have consistently come to her for prayers whenever they wanted something badly or had a family crisis, they would plead to the bishop and priest that she be re-installed as Eucharistic Minister and be assigned to distribute the Precious Blood at the Saturday Easter Vigil Mass and the Sunday morning Mass.

 

It would appear that the priest is determined to secure his revenge and his solid grasp on his Power by refusing to do so. Apparently, he is more than willing to harm her to achieve the meeting of his own needs. 

 

In desperation for her to have a positive outcome, i called the priest this morning at 6:30 a.m. and said, "Father, this is Sister Angela. As you know, Mother Veronica has metastatic cancer and had radical surgery and will have surgery Monday to have the chemo port inserted so she can begin chemo.

 

We have been told that this persecution of yours against her will contribute to a less than optimal outcome of her chemo and i want her to have an optimal outcome.

 

You are harming her, Father. 

 

When you had your cancer, we broke our necks to help you and i am flat-out begging you to let her give the Precious Blood on Saturday night and Sunday Masses."

 

Then i began to cry so i said to him, "i am going to  hang up now, Father." and i did so.

 

If this is how a priest, a bishop, and parishioners treat an elderly and holy nun who entered the monastery in 1956 at the age of 18, are we really surprised at how they mistreat the victims of their rapist priests and nuns?

 

And yet they will celebrate with all pomposity Holy Week and not realize that as they crucify Mother Veronica, they are standing, drooling, with the crowd beneath the cross of our sweet Jesus.

 

February 10, 2005 Update: 

We recently received a letter from the bishop that will likely be posted here.The letter does not make any reference to why we were not renewed with all of the other Eucharistic ministers, nor to why Mother is no longer permitted to be Lector. Since the letter made no reference to it at all, one would think nothing really happened.

 

One would think nothing really happened.

 

That is the point of this entire thing----not the Ministries----it would seem that you are being given a demonstration of the Church doing the same thing, in the same manner, to us, as it does to those who report being victimized. We do not equate our bit of pain with the depth of soul-murder done to abuse victims. Our pain is but a droplet in all Earth's oceans, compared to what victims endure life-long.

 

As long as we keep quiet, it will appear that nothing really happened. But something did happen and the "silent secretive" not-speaking of it, appears to follow the same path sexual-abuse victims usually report having experienced at the hands of their bishops.

 

This has all been done to us seemingly "in screaming silence" "under the surface", "without speaking of it". One would think nothing really happened.

 

We are every bit as Christian, as Catholic, as UN-scandalous as those others serving the parish in these ministries. We should not have been "deleted". We should be re-instated.

 

What has been done to us?  How has it been done? Why has it been done?

Because we say priests and nuns should not get away with their rape of kids?

 

 What, in the name of God, do they want us to say instead?

 

 

 

Sunday, January 30 Update

This is an email to us with a request and our response:

Subject: help me understand

 

Mother Veronica & Sister Angela,

 

I read your update today.  I am in admiration of your willingness to apologize to Dot and John publicly, and I am equally in admiration of her graciousness in accepting it.  

 

Can you ask her to help someone like me understand why it is that she does not agree with your advocacy on behalf of those, like me, who have had sexual crimes committed against them by priests and other church leaders. 

 

Does she object to those within the church who advocate for the unborn? 

 

Does she object to those within the church who advocate for the poor? 

 

Does she object to those within the church who advocate against the death penalty and in so doing are advocating on behalf of those who have been convicted of taking the life of another?

 

Pass on my email to her and have her respond directly to me if she would like. 

 

With admiration & support,

Linda

 

Ah, dear Linda,

 

i wish i could do that, give your email to Dot, but i am afraid it might make her feel frightened or ambushed or something, and i can't risk doing that, even to folks whose loving-Catholic-ness does not extend to the over eleven thousand kids sodomized and other-ways-raped, like yourself dear Lady, by priests and nuns.

 

However, i ask, Linda, if you will give me your permission to put your poignant email on our web site, there at the top, where it fits in with what's been happening. i would like to put your email there, along with my email response. For, Dot might continue to look at our site from time to time and she might see your email and be moved by the Love that is the Holy Spirit, to answer you herself.

 

But only if it does not make you uncomfortable, Linda. If it feels exploitive of you in any way, please tell me and i will apologize and we will drop the idea. Entirely up to you. Either way, my caring and immense respect for you does not change. And you owe me no explanation.

 

From my heart,

Angela

Update: Friday, January 28, 2005:  
                        i made a big mistake 

        An apology is in order                   

 

In the Jan. 20th entry below, i referred to a lady who had complained to Father that MoV had prayed for victims. i said, "Further, it could be perceived to have been rewarded with, not only the removal of the nuns as Eucharistic Ministers, but also the bestowing of that ministry, upon  her hubby, the newly installed Eucharistic Minister."

 

i was wrong about that lady and about her husband. She was not the person who complained to the priest, as i had been told she was by two persons. i was wrong. i was inaccurate and i was, in my opinion, wrong to not have asked her  myself instead of relying on others' statements. In that i erred and hurt her feelings and her husband's feelings.

 

Further, i detracted, in my opinion, from her husband's first time as Eucharistic Minister. i took their happy time, their special time new to the Ministry, and through my error, brought sadness to it. To them. For that i was also wrong and apologize.

 

That lady came to us after Mass this morining and told us, with infinite class and gentleness, that she was not the person who complained to the priest. When i began to apologize, she waved it off. She was gracious, classy, merciful, without hostility, and touched me with as beautiful an example of a Catholic Christian response as i have ever experienced.

 

i apologized to her and she explained that she did not agree with our advocacy for victims, but that she does not judge anyone and did not complain to the priest. She did not demand, suggest, or even request an apology.

 

Having experienced this lady's "depth of Catholic-ness" and her Christ-like kindness this morning, how i wish she were an advocate for survivors. How loved they would feel and how greatly they would benefit from her prayers.

 

In the interest of doing what we think is right, and since the priest has objected to our doing things without his permission, MoV sent him the following email request and received the email response below it:

                       

Father,

May we have permission to apologize to Dot and John publicly on Sunday after the dismissal blessing and before the recessional hymn, in the following manner?:

 

After you ask folks to wait a moment, I would stand and say, "On behalf of Sister Angela and myself I want to apologize publicly to Dot and John for inferring, in error, that it was Dot who complained about us."

 

We also ask, Father, if it is possible for you to do so, that you print in the Sunday bulletin, "Sisters Veronica and Angela apologize to Dot and John for inferring, in error, that it was Dot who complained about us."

 

If you can do it and if it can be done using those words only, as we do not want to be quoted as saying other than those words, so perhaps you cannot do it. If you can't, Father, don't worry about it; we will find another way.

 

Sister Veronica

 

                       Below complete, in its entirety, is the priest's response:

 

 

I cannot grant your request at this time.

 

--

Father Paul A. Hostettler

Copperhill, Tennessee 37317

"God's Country USA"

 

Further Update: We have been contacted by a canon lawyer and thank all who
                                helped us to find him.

 

 

 January 20, 2005: An S-O-S of Sorts…

 

Is there a canon lawyer who will help us? We cannot pay in full up front, but we can pay an initial sum and then make monthly payments till our bill is paid.

 

This is what we think is the situation: we think that the parish priest and some  parishioners are saying that we give scandal so that there will be canon law clauses that can be abused to get rid of us. That sounds paranoid, but you will see it is not if you learn about our hero, Father Tom Doyle, a “case in point”.

 

When the bishop came to meet with us last July, he said, “You get yourselves a couple of canon lawyers and, Father Vann Johnston, will you be the canon lawyer for the diocese?” (VJ nodded).

 

We did not know any canon lawyers who would care to help us and we did not fully comprehend what was, perhaps, “being set up”, so we did not seek a canon lawyer.

 

At least once, prior to Wednesday January 5th and again on that day, our parish priest accused us of “giving scandal”. We recognized then that he might be helping to “set up” or “implement” a plan by the bishop to “un-nun” us, based on that false-accusation that we are giving scandal.

 

We have been advised by those who understand the Church’s typical “modus operandi” in “drumming out” a person, that the use of a canon law principle, when there is nothing valid to use, usually starts with accusing the person of  “giving scandal” or “giving offense” or  “not living a good Christian life”.

 

The pattern appears to be recognizably followed in what happened after

we indicated to the parish priest that accusing us of “giving scandal” is tantamount to defamation of character, which is illegal in our country. He subsequently substituted the phrase, “giving offense”, such that in the context used, it indicated the same thing as “giving scandal”. Subsequently he seemed to infer that we are “not leading good Christian lives” when, at the ceremony for renewal or installation of Eucharistic ministers, he said, (as we were not called to come up to be renewed),  “To be a Eucharistic minister, you have to lead a good Christian life.”

 

We have feared that this “drumming out process” was occurring and that some of  the parishioners were being used to “set it in motion”. We have since been advised that such is common.  It has been told to us also that often, parishioners are prompted, coached, rewarded, or manipulated into making the complaints “needed” so that it is not obvious that it is the agenda of the hierarch that is being accomplished.

 

It is therefore, interesting, that the person who complained against the nun who prayed for victims, could be perceived to have provided the “required precipitating complaint”.

 

Events surely seem to follow the pattern of which we were advised and which we have described to you above:

First the bishop said he found the website offensive.

Then the priest told parishioners that the bishop might censor the sisters.

Then the priest used the phrase “giving scandal”.

Then, the person complained to the priest that MoV prayed for victims.

Then the priest reported the sisters to the bishop.

Then, in a phone conversation, the priest accused the sisters of “giving scandal”.
Then, just a bit over a week later, the nuns walked into church, to find themselves being stripped of their Eucharistic ministry, all without so 
much as notification.

              Accused, judged, and punished. Nearly “in absentia”

 

Actions are being perpetrated against us as though we were giving scandal when we have not done so and are not doing so. By virtue of taking those actions against us, the bishop and the priest and some number of cooperating parishioners are, in a very real sense, saying it anyway, deciding it is true, and punishing us for it. All, it would appear, done typically, “in silencia”.

 

By not speaking out, we could be misconstrued to agree that we are giving scandal and to be accepting punishment for it. We do neither. To fail to object is to be complicit by our silence. We have not given scandal. We have not ceased living a good Christian life. We should not have been accused of giving scandal. We should not have been removed as Lector and Eucharistic ministers.

 

By keeping silent regarding what is being perpetrated against us, we would be assisting in whatever the next steps might be, in the “drumming out” and “un-nun-ing’ of us, if that is what is occurring. Hence our need for a canon lawyer.

 

 

 Sunday January 16, 2005     Holy Mass

             A Sunday Sabbath Shunnin’; A Subtle Slap Schlepped Upon the Sisters

 

i dreaded whatever way the priest was bound to wield his power, or wield the bishop’s “delegated power” at Mass in response or retaliation or intimidation or punishment or harassment for our letter to parishioners last Sunday, and more to the guts of it, for our 

advocacy for victims via our website.

 

As we drove, I suggested to MoV, “Say that folks were suddenly faced with a catastrophic scenario such that they knew that in five minutes, they and all their family members except the kids, would be annihilated, like that horrid tsunami did to folks. And say all their family-friends and anyone who knew their kids, would also be gone. Say the scenario is such that the only thing they could accomplish in that last five minutes was that they could guarantee the lives and future safety of their kids. By placing the kids with any one of three non-abusers. i truly do wonder where in that frantic last five minutes,  in order to most guarantee their safety,  they would opt to put their kids: with one of us or Father or the bishop.

 

We walked into Mass a couple of minutes late and saw that Mass had not begun, and that a ceremony was already in process. It was the same ceremony in which we and other parishioners had first taken part over a decade ago, when we were made Eucharistic Ministers by the child-abuser-bishop. Periodically the ceremony was repeated as our ministries were renewed.

 

i saw as i genuflected upon entering church, that they were already in the middle of the ceremony and realization dawned: So this was the tool to be used as a not-spoken-aloud response or retaliation or intimidation or punishment or harassment for our letter of last Sunday to the parishioners, but at a more basic and more unspoken level, for our stand and our website in advocacy of survivors and victims.

 

About that time i heard Father explaining to folks that only persons who led good Christian lives could be Eucharistic Ministers. Those “on the inside” and “in the know” knew that the insinuated message was that the sisters were being “deleted” because speaking aloud of sexual abuse of kids, and praying for these victims, was not to be tolerated and indeed, is to be silenced, even if it meant saying the sisters were giving scandal and even if it meant insinuating that in speaking of the abuse and advocating for victims, the sisters were leading such unchhristian lives that they would no longer be permitted to minister to the parish. One of the persons who wants us to be silenced turned fully around just then to look at us, i guess to see if we got the point.

 

It struck me forcefully how demoralizing and how sad it was that the the beautiful ministry of lay Eucharistic Ministers had been selected, to be used as the weapon with which to slap us. How cheapened, the Sacrament. Anyone who understood what was really going on, under the guise of the ceremony, knew that the renewal of Eucharistic Ministers would not have taken place today except that there were those who were intent that the nuns had to be smacked.

 

And told obliquely, and un-spokenly, but purposely publicly, that they were not leading good Christian lives. Another way to say giving-scandal.

 

So now we won’t distribute Communion to the parishioners any more. And it is pretty much, as someone commented to us, “a no-brainer that Sister Veronica is not going to be assigned to read at Mass any more either.” So, who loses? The parishioners.

 

So that a few persons feel good that they made their point, the rest lose. So that the elite few can wield their power, the rest pay. Those in charge of the distribution-of-Power, wield their power to “take away” what they perceive as Power, from the nunnies, and then they distribute it elsewhere, thus wielding their Power yet a second time. That type of misuse of power means “a buzz” for a few elite, but the rest lose. The little guys always lose.

 

The few elite feel vindicated and, as always, the rest lose. i was noticing sadly, that this pattern seems to be more common in our faith-tradition than many have the courge to acknowledge, that a few at the top wield their Power against those whom they want to silence, while the rest lose.

 

Just then the lovely wooden church door opened and one of the Eucharistic ministers hurried in with two of her beautiful grandbabies and when she saw that she was supposed to be up in front with the group being “renewed”, she gently steered the babies in our direction and made eye contact with us and mouthed, “watch them, okay? I have to go up.”  And i nodded. 

 

 

January 13, 2005: Please Note: Something Is Still Happening...

We had said: October 18, 2004: Something is happening...We are not sure just what it is. We feel as though we are being pressured to shut down the website www.freewebs.com/thenuns/ , which is the site with which we stand with victims and survivors of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse by priests, nuns, and other church-persons.

January 13, 2005

The information below seems to be "the next step" in whatever is "going on" or "happening still". The "steps" (and letters and explanations) that preceded these January events, are now accessible from the last entry, "Monastery Soap Opera", on the navigation bar. We entitled it that, not because we find it humorous, but quite the opposite.

On the Jan. 5th Wednesday Memorial of American bishop St. John Neumann, as is often the case at daily Mass, MoV was the Lector who read the First Reading from Scripture.

In our parish, the Lector also prays the Prayer of the Faithful. The petitions are prepared by our priest, or someone, and read on Sundays. During the week, if MoV is the reader, as she usually or often is, she prays the petitions ad lib. If the Lector is not comfortable doing that, the priest, instead of the Lector, leads the Prayer of the Faithful.

On that day, to gain the intercession of a sainted American bishop, MoV prayed something very close to: "That the Church may show the face of the compassionate and merciful Christ to those they have abused."

Later that day we found a message on the phone machine from the priest requesting that MoV return his call and that, if they did not get the opportunity to speak, she should "refrain from volunteering to read at Mass until we do speak". 

MoV returned his call immediately, greeting him with a solution she had already worked out, that would make him comfortable. She said, "I imagine your call is in regard to my petition at Mass this morning. Therefore I suggest you do the Petitions when I read just as you do for all other readers."

The priest said something close to, "That will do for now, but I have a call in to the bishop. People are coming to me asking why you are being permitted to continue reading and giving Communion, and I don't want to handle it, so I have a call in to the bishop and have been told I am on a list of persons he will contact." 

In that conversation, the priest said for the second time, that MoV and i are "giving scandal".

It seemed we were being moved around a chessboard, so to speak, but we could not tell by whom. We could not tell whether it was due to someone's desire to do the bishop's apparent bidding to silence us, the priest's bidding, the bidding of a small group of  parishioners, or the bidding of most of the parishioners.

So we prayed about it, thought about it, discussed it, prayed further about it, and made a decision.

We decided to write a letter to the parishioners in which we would adamantly state that we are not giving scandal and should not be accused of doing so, and in which we would ask the parishioners to let us know plainly if they want us to leave their parish church family.

Since the priest had not approved when we had one time asked a parishioner to read a letter from us to the parishioners at their monthly parish meeting, we knew we would not be permitted to read this letter to them at a parish meeting, so we decided to hand out the letter, from the public street outside our parish church after Holy Mass Sunday January 9th.

We started the letter with a "heads-up" that the letter was explicit and blunt, so that the reader could decide not to break the double seal and read the letter, but rather, could discard it if s/he might find it offensive to read.

The next day, on Monday, we found a letter from the parish priest in the mailbox.

It would appear that from Wednesday when MoV prayed for abuse victims, till Monday after handing out the letter on Sunday, the two nuns who have been in the parish church family since October 1992, have been summarily "smacked" with the taking-away of Mother's ministry to the parish as Lector and our service to the parish as Eucharistic Ministers. From Wednesday to Monday was all it took to "smack" the nuns. Six days.

Who benefits from the fact that MoV will no longer read the Scripture at Mass? Who benefits from the fact that MoV and i will no longer distribute Communion? Could it be that nobody benefits? But at least the nuns are smacked and some have been able to wield their Power?

We find it a significant statement that nuns and priests and bishops are still being assisted in getting away with sexual abuse of kids, while two old nunnies who speak publicly about it, are punished in less than a week's time.

Below is a copy of that letter, with paragraphs personal to our parish deleted, since they are not relevant to any but the parishioners and ourselves. Below our letter, is a copy of the letter we found in our mailbox on Monday from the parish priest.

Our letter to our parishioners:

January 7, 2005

This letter, to those of you with whom we attend church, bluntly speaks the truth. Please be advised that if you already don’t approve of that, then you should not read this letter. Throw it away. If you object to our website, then this is your heads-up that you would not like this letter either. In that case, we respectfully request that you do not read it. Since we have paid you the courtesy of telling you that this is a blunt and explicit letter, we respectfully ask that you return to us the courtesy to not read it anyway and then take offense.

This letter to you has resulted because twice at least, the last time being Wednesday, Father has accused Mother Veronica and me of giving scandal and has added something close to, "And as long as I’m here, I won’t let anyone give scandal to my parishioners."

If someone walks up to you and says, "You are an arsonist," your normal response would be, "I am not!" with some degree of indignation or outrage in your voice/affect. If you don’t respond that way, some of us at least wonder.....

If someone walks up to you and says, "You’re a morally loose woman," again, you would indignantly, at very least, deny that. If not, again, at least some of us, would wonder.

If someone walks up to you and says, "You cheat on your wife," you might not hit him. But you get my point.

In our Church, when someone walks up to you and says "You are giving scandal," it is a very serious accusation. It is tantamount to defamation of character.

To have the priest then announce that he will protect the parishioners from whomever is supposedly giving scandal, further suggests that the scandal-giver is so spiritually dangerous to the parishioners that they need to be protected. If Father or another parishioner walks up to you and tells you that you are giving scandal, that you are spiritually dangerous to your parish family, how will you feel?

We don’t let persons falsely accuse us. And we most indignantly and outraged-ly reply to Father’s accusation that we are giving scandal: "We most certainly are not a spiritual danger to our parish family! We are not giving scandal! Do not defame our characters! Do not use insinuated threat to our reputations as a means of intimidation of us."

Father also said "people"are coming to him, to do something about us. If we understood Father correctly, a good number of you can barely stand our presence and you find yourselves in need of his protection from whatever spiritual danger Mother and i supposedly pose you, by supposedly "giving scandal".

Therefore, i am going to go ahead and speak entirely openly about everything to you. You will, if Father speaks accurately, not-want-us all the more. That is a very sad thing to contemplate, but i will not keep silent this time. It might save one of your kids from one of those not-to-be-spoken-of, (at risk of giving scandal) "accidental little touches".

Neither MoV nor i, in speaking on our website about the serial rape of thousands of kids and vulnerable adults, have done anything immoral or spiritually threatening. The scandal is the rape and cover-up; not the fact of two old nuns speaking bluntly of it. Pretty words should not be used for ugly realities. As MoV told the bishop when he was here this past July, pretty words for ugly realities are but lies.

Leaders who would cover-up, as many of the hierarchy and leaders of orders of priests and of nuns have done, would indeed want us to think that speaking aloud of it is scandalous. For, how else do they get away with it? We should not be accused of giving scandal, for we are not the ones perpetrating the evil and criminal sexual assaults, or making it possible for others to do so.

We are not giving scandal; we are speaking aloud of the scandal.

Why could anyone think it wrong, immoral, scandalous, for women to try to protect the Little Ones from predators?

Why could anyone think it wrong to speak the truth aloud? NOT speaking aloud is how this evil and criminal element has fulminated in our beloved holy Church, to the point that not just a few of the abusers do so using known satanic rituals or with elements of satanic worship in those "sacristy events".

We should not be coerced to be silent by accusing that we are giving scandal if we do not keep silent.

It is logical that speaking the truth aloud seems wrong to those who want the predators to continue to have access. It is logical that it seems wrong to those hierarchs who want their Power to continue without having to be accountable, most especially to those of you in the lay state, for evil mismanagement and criminal abuse of that Power.

Where exactly is the scandal in this picture? Is the scandal really with the two old nuns who say that even if a priest or monk or nun must go to prison, the kids’ safety should come first?

Is it a scandal that a nun says a predator-bishop should go to prison?

Or is the scandal that the predatory priest preys on children?

And, that power-addicted bishops know about "the problem he has with little boys" yet still, and clandestinely nonetheless, moves him to greener pastures to feed?

Are you aware that our current bishop tried to hide the priest La Prad in our retreat cottage in January of 2002, claiming he had, "A priest who needs a place to stay", a priest with a "wellness- issue" What if we’d let him live there, and then one of the kids from our parish had come to visit? And Sister had said, "Sure, go spend time with Father."

That attempt by the current bishop occurred just two months before the Church crisis was made public and we saw our founding bishop at a TV news conference, admitting that he "might-have-accidentally-one-time-as-a-counseling-session-sorta-touched-maybe-one-little-boy. Or maybe two..". The count has long-since passed two and was still rising the last time we heard.

Is the scandal the fact of nuns talking about abuse and cover-up or is the scandal the abuse and the cover-up?

New Topic: It has become uncomfortable for us to attend Mass at St. Catherine’s because Father says that you "have come to him" and asked why MoV and i are being permitted to continue ministering to you with MoV’s reading of Holy Scripture and as Eucharistic ministers who give you the Chalice of His Most Precious Blood and who, on occasion, take Holy Communion to the sick.

He said he does not want to handle this and so he called the bishop. It looks like, from what he says, you folks do not want us at your church and that you are urging him to do something about us and that he is finding it such a big problem that it warrants his having to call the boss. And report the nuns to the bishop.

We were grateful that a few of you might care about the victims for whom we advocate and be glad that we do so, but we have never asked you to do a single thing for them. We knew also, that some of you would be against our attempts to help the victims, since it is unpopular with your bishop, and we have tried to be most sensitive to your feelings, even to the extent of trying to avoid putting you in a position where you might even have to say "hi" to us. It is hard for us to go to church and say hi to the folks who want us to and try not to say hi to those who don’t want us to, and not be able to know for sure whom we might be offending with an un-wanted hello and whom we might be accidentally hurting by skipping a hello.

We have continued to attend Mass and to love you, even when Father said he no longer respects Mother Veronica. For Goodness sake! It is difficult to attend Holy Mass and to go to receive Communion from a man who said, "I no longer respect you." How will you feel if Father says to you that he used to respect you but no longer does? Are you going to trust that he has your best interests at heart? Are you going to trust your frailties to him in a confessional? Are you going to trust your salvation to a priest who states he does not respect you?

And now, whether he intended to or not, our Father has made it seem like you are pushing him to get rid of us. It seems hard to believe, but perhaps you are. When we thought it was a matter of some folks wishing we would not advocate for the victims and some folks not minding that we did, we did not push our victim-advocacy on you.

Now, however, in view of Father twice accusing us of giving scandal and in view of his seeming to say that you want to be rid of us, we are doing something nuns and priests have not often done. We are turning to you as though you were level-headed thinking adults capable of reasoned thought and gently suggesting, "you decide". If you don’t want us attending your church, we respectfully suggest that perhaps you might join together in a parish meeting or a parish-council meeting to decide. If you don’t want us any more, we need for you to tell us plainly.

Otherwise this is where we will be. We will not be silently and conveniently run off.

We won’t allow ourselves to be run off like J and A, the T family, the C family, the M family, , the other M family, the other-other M family, the S family and the others we’ve seen run off over the last fourteen years, making a farcical parody of the scripture lesson of Jesus going to retrieve the one lost sheep.

paragraphs of personal nature between parishioners and sisters omitted

Are you aware of the thousands of victims of sexual abuse by nuns and priests? They are almost never even prayed for, at our church at least. i know this because in solidarity with victims and survivors who are unable to go to Mass or Communion i sacrifice the joy of receiving my Lord in Holy Communion on days when we do not pray for them at the Prayers of the Faithful. Silly as it might sound to you, i offer up my missed Communion, asking God to give the Graces to one of those survivors who is unable to step into a church or walk up to receive our Lord in Holy Communion.

That is how i know how rarely we pray for them. If you wonder why so many victims cannot go to Mass or Communion, it is because of the flashbacks that happen to them when they try. (Many of them were told that the priest’s ejaculate during the abusive sex act was the "Real Communion" to be consumed.) It was such a mind-assaulting trauma for those children that a great many of them are medically-diagnose-ably shell-shocked and have flashbacks, reliving the abuse, like war vets relive immense traumas in their flashbacks.

Are you aware that, back in 2003, one of the victims of our former bishop asked to come to speak to our parish? i relayed that request to our parish priest. That request for hospitality was not even considered as far as i know, unless he called a meeting of parishioners or of the parish council to put the request before you. I recall that it occurred at a time when i had a heck of an injury. Father conveyed to MoV at Mass one morning that he would be glad to anoint me (give me the Sacrament of the Sick, formerly "Last Rites") and when she gave me his message, i called him right away.

i told him that i felt i certainly needed Anointing and would be grateful for it. i then said that i would like to be anointed but that if he would not extend hospitality to the victim who had asked to come speak to the parish, i did not want the Sacrament of Anointing from him. Needless to say, he did not anoint me. And the young man, who tried to kill himself, never was welcomed to our parish, the parish whose motto is "Our motto is hospitality."

The following anecdote reflects an attitude that is something you should know about: There is a fellow in our community who is friendly to everyone he sees and he greets everyone playfully and folks always look uplifted from the interaction. One day he playfully startled MoV and they had a good laugh over it. The next time we ran into him was soon after the bishop had been here, seeming to insinuate he would shut down the monastery and un-nun us, if we continued our web site in advocacy for the survivors. The fellow said playfully to me in reference to MoV, something like, "Do you think she’s scared today?" to which i replied, "She might oughta be, our bishop was here and seemed to be threatening to shut us down and un-nun us!"

i was the one startled then, because the pink drained from his cheeks and his facial muscles became like iron and he said, "What’s he doing that for?" to which i said, "i guess he doesn’t want us talking out loud and on our website about all these kids getting sexually abused by priests and nuns". "You know what that tells a fella, don’tcha?" he asked, and before i could answer he continued, "tells a fella that that bishop’s doin’ the same sorta stuff then." Again i was startled, and i murmured, "Oh, i wouldn’t go that far...." i was left with a gentle, "I know you wouldn’t, but the rest of us do."

Folks keep saying to us, regarding our founding bishop, "It is awful for you to be this way, after all he did for you." Father made that statement to us at least once. A nun who is no longer a friend of ours also said it. This is what is disturbing about it: That concept in that statement conveys that i must not hold a child molester accountable for the children he raped because he had been good to me at some point.

Is that the price of a twelve year old boy? That a pedophile bishop need only be very good to us, to be "owed" that we will look the other way over his sexual abuse of those children? That clergy-above-the-law-attitude, and that cowardice, are part of what got our Church into this mess.

At least five decades ago our beloved Church got into this mess. Longer even. A lady recently pleaded to be heard by the Sister-Superiors of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious. She was sexually molested, criminally sexually abused, by a nun. She was but six years old and now she is 82. That occurred more than five decades ago.

Never have we asked you to read our site, www.freewebs.com/thenuns/ . If we had, we’d have suggested, "Read what Janet Patterson said after her Eric killed himself. (Eric and four other little boys molested by the same priest, all five killed themselves later.)

You would read what Janet said about the mom who still has the settlement check from the diocese of the perpetrator who raped her son, her precious little boy who then killed himself. That mom still has the check. She says, "I never cashed it. After all, how far does $10 go?"

Surely i should not ask her to pay that price so that i can have warm fuzzies when the bishop comes to visit and remembers my name as one of his Loyal-Ones?

If you were tired of Janet, then you might read what the tough ex-cop, Steve, says about the nun who started prepping and grooming him, before his little-boy voice even began to change.

Are you aware that a usual scenario is that a devout couple discover their little boy had been sodomized repeatedly for years in the sacristy where he prepared to serve the Mass. Or their little girl had been raped at the rectory where she’d been sent to deliver something during CCD class. The parents go to the bishop and tell him. He either says it never happened or that he will see to it the guy does not do it any more. The parents later find out that nothing was done and kids have still been available to the predator pedophile. So they finally bring a lawsuit, to force the bishop to apologize, and to force him to keep other kids safe. At that point, it is not uncommon that the bishop’s lawyers counter-sue the parents for child neglect for allowing him to serve the Mass or for dropping her off to attend CCD classes. It’s called, i think, a SLAPP suit.

Are you aware that the reference "the Holy Innocents" applies to more than Herod’s murdered martyred children to whom we pray on the Dec. 28th Feast? It refers also to a group of persons, some of whom are now in their seventies, whose daddies are priests. There are thousands of these folks. In some families the last so many kids in line do not share the paternal DNA that they, and the dads raising them, always thought they did.

Are you aware that some of the priests have groups of women, some as many as thirty, whom they "visit regularly" for years and years? i was told of one lady who was finally able to break the hold Father had had over her all these years, when she saw him eyeing her little daughter the way he had eyed her, before raping her, when she was close to that age. That man, under the guise of an outstanding upstanding monk, has been to our monastery. We pampered him. Only years later, after he’d been here, did we learn that he had sexually abused about ten little ten-year-old-girls.

We have met one of the ladies one of those little girls grew to be. She sat on our porch and apologized for becoming tearful as she related just what his crime had done to her body and to her mind and to her soul, and to her Faith.

No kids were ever at our monastery when Clarence was here. But he’s still right there, in his home monastery. He’s still around. Watch your kids.

Are you aware that orders of priests, brothers, and nuns, are even harder to track and to hold accountable for their pedophiles, than our poor parish priests and their bishops?

Are you aware of the hero priest, Father Tom Doyle? Please pray for him. He is so good.

paragraph omission 

i will leave the end of this letter to Eric’s mom, Janet Patterson, who said it better than i can, in "Sexual Abuse, The Church’s Millstone"

She asked these questions:

"In the scales of justice, is a child’s or adolescent’s life less valuable than that of a priest?"

"When a bishop states that he forgives his fellow priest, wouldn’t the person doing the forgiving have to be the victim?"

"If a crime is committed against a person, do the friends of the criminal have the right to ‘forgive’ his actions?"

"Does this forgiveness erase the damage done to the child or the adolescent?"

Then, like a true mom, from the midst of her own unimaginable pain, Janet reassures us, "Catholic laypeople can collectively insist that no child or adolescent be "sacrificed" to this evil. By speaking up, laypeople can help the Church regain its image as a Church of Truth and Salvation."

Letter from the parish priest:

January 9, 2005

Dear Sister Veronica,

I have a copy of the seven page message which I am told you and Sister Angela distributed to some of our parishioners after Mass this morning. I am very disappointed that you continue to work behind my back in this way. I have more than once offered to meet with you in an amicable manner to discus [sic] our apparent differences.

As I told you last week, I have put in a call to the bishop to seek his advise [sic]; in the meantime, I am sending him a copy of the message you distributed this morning as well as a copy of this letter to you.

Until I have heard from the bishop, I ask that you not volunteer to serve as a reader nor extraordinary minister of Holy Communion at our Masses. This is not an attempt to admonish you in any way but an effort to avoid giving further offense to some of our parishoiners while we attempt to find a way to solve our differences.

Let us pray for each other.

Father Paul A. Hostettler
Parish Administrator

   

 As we said at the top of this "missive", we do not know for sure, but we feel as though we are being pressured to shut down the web site. We cannot, in good conscience, do so. We feel, in conscience, that for us to do so would be to "sell out" the survivors in order to feel more secure about "our future", our "position in the Church", our "well-being". Our only agenda is to be true to Christ by standing in support of victims and survivors, from the heart of Holy Mother Church, where lives her Son.

We ask that any of you who care to, pray for us to remain true to God.
 


 The following has occurred a time or two recently, so at the dreaded risk of accidentally seeming disrespectful of you, we need to make the following request:  If you are a victim/survivor of abuse by someone in the church, please do not send us financial donations. Even and especially when you feel grateful for the stand we are taking. It is a stand all should take.  

It is not that your gift or your self is not valued. It is that you have been exploited and victimized by at least one, and probably more than one, church person. We do not want to benefit, even secondarily, from that. Your email or your well-wishes or a bit of a smile when you think of us, are more important to our well-being than money. God will take care of that.  Please know that we mean nothing negative by our request.

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Preceding "Episodes" in the "Monastery Soap Opera"

 

October 18, 2004  Please Note:
Something Is Happening...

We are not sure just what it is. We feel as though we are being pressured to shut down the website www.freewebs.com/thenuns/ , which is the site with which we stand with victims and survivors of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse by priests, nuns, and other church-persons.

You have been aware of some communications we have recently had with Bishop Kurtz of the diocese of Knoxville, TN, beginning with a letter from him on June 29, 2004.

In order to bring you up to date, we have decided to post the two letters that we have received from the bishop and a subsequent letter from our parish priest.

We will later post the letter from our attorney to the bishop, responding to one part of the bishop's second letter to us. As you can tell from the bishop's second letter, we also met with the bishop on July 15, 2004, here at the monastery.

As you might imagine, we are concerned about all of this recent activity. Until we started this web site, www.freewebs.com/thenuns/ and began receiving and responding to letters from victims/survivors, we received very little attention from the bishop. Although he only briefly mentions the discussion about the web site in his second letter, the implications we drew from the meeting and from what was said, were that the bishop wanted us to terminate our web site, and, if we didn't, bad things might happen to us and/or the monastery.

He did not say that, but we felt that he was displeased with what we are doing and would prefer that it end and might take steps to make that happen if we didn't agree to end it. If we are right about that, we want you to know that we have no intention of doing that.

For what it's worth, we do not agree with parts of the bishop's second letter, either as to what was said at the meeting or what we are doing.

The letter from the parish priest is, to some extent, based on some misunderstandings. It was not our intention to upset him or anyone else in the parish, but, rather simply to inform our beloved parishioners of what is going on. Contrary to what he suggests, we do not hate the priests and nuns who have abused their positions and the children and other vulnerable persons who were entrusted to their care. We pray for them. Indeed, on our web site we have stated since its beginning that we daily pray for all priests.

Just as crucially, however, we are dedicated to keeping the promise we have made to God to pray for and actively support the victims of those perpetrators' abuses, and for their families. We hope that we can do something to make their lives better, their nearly-intractable pain less, and if possible, effect positive changes in the Church we love so much.

Bishop Letter #1

Sr. Veronica Sweeney
Sr. Angela Ferry
Monastery of Our Lady of Little Citeaux
255 Golf Course Road
Copperhill, TN 37317

June 29, 2004

Dear Sister Veronica and Sister Angela,

              May God's blessings be with you. It has been some time since we have met to discuss your on-going life and work as consecrated virgins in the Diocese of Knoxville.  As your bishop, I want to exercise my pastoral and governance role in assisting you toward living out your vocation in the service of Christ and the Church. To this end, I would like to arrange to meet with you here at the Chancery some time before July 16, 2004. I have asked Father Van Johnston, our diocesan Chancellor, to join us, as he has frequently assisted me in matters involving the administration of the diocese.

        Among the items that I would like to address are the following:

       - The role and responsibility of the diocesan bishop in regard to consecrated virgins.
       - The relationship of consecrated virgins to the local Chruch.
       -  Issues related to the civil and canon law.
       -  Diocesan Safe Environment programs and how they relate to consecrated virgins.
       -  Issues related to your website.

              In addition to these items, this meeting would afford us the opportunity to reflect on these initial years of your life within the diocese as consecrated virgins; to assess both the fruitfulness and the challenges of your state.

              I ask that you call my office in the next few days to arrange a time in which we might meet. Thank you, and may God continue to bless you.

                                                                            Sincerely your in Christ,

                                                                            Most Reverend Joseph E. Kurtz, D.D.
                                                                            Bishop of Knoxville

C: Father Vann Johnston, J.C.L., Chancellor

                                                                                             

A meeting was held at the monastery on July 15, 2004. Attending the meeting were the bishop and his canon lawyer and the sisters and, since matters of civil law had been listed in the bishop's items to be addressed, our civil attorney.

Bishop Letter #2

Sr. Veronica Sweeney
Sr. Angela Ferry
Monastery of Our Lady of Little Citeaux
255 Golf Course Road
Copperhill, TN 37317

September 28, 2004

Dear Sister Veronica and Sister Angela,

     May God's blessings be with you. I am grateful for the opportunity I had to have a pastoral visit with you on July 15th, along with Father Vann Johnston and Attorney J.G. As summer comes to an end, I thought it might be prudent to pull together some of the topics we discussed for the sake of memory and for any future steps that might be indicated.

     I was happy to learn of your good health and well being, and that you both continue to follow a pattern of daily prayer. You indicated that you were doing well, and although you still do not have the desired material stability you may need, you are making steady progress and are able to remain adequately on your own. You are almost exclusively dedicated to a contemplative life, and no longer have any involvement in catechetical or retreat apostolates. Your main interaction with others centers on your source of livelihood, the kennel, and this is very limited. You agreed to notify me if this changed. It occurred to me later that we did not discuss your planning for future contingencies related to long term care needs in the event of an accident or an illness. Perhaps this is a topic we might revisit in the near future.

Among the other aspects of your life, we discussed matters related to civil law, and I was grateful for the presence of Attorney G. He mentioned the work he had done to address bylaws and other legal aspects of your life, and agreed to send me copies of these materials. We also discussed information which  Archbishop Burke, the Episcopal consultant for consecrated virginity, had shared with me regarding the canonical structure of your situation. I invited you to seek more canonical advice on this topic and that we might revisit this area if any clarifications need to be made. Lastly, I shared with you some of the concerns I had regarding the graphic nature of some of the language and presentation used on your web site and how this could affect your vocation in a detrimental way. You respectfully received my concerns.

     I am certain that you both have reflected on the things we discussed and may have had the opportunity to seek advice from others who assist you. I invite you to share any further thoughts you might
have on the above matters. I also ask that you remind Attorney G. to forward to me the materials related to your legal status when he is able. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future. May God continue to bless you.

                                                      Sincerely yours in Our Lord,

                                                      Most Reverend Joseph E. Kurtz, D.D.

                                                      Bishop Of Knoxville

JEK:aec

 

Parish Priest Letter:

Saint Catherine Laboure Church

116 East Main Street P.O. Box 586

Copperhill, TN 37317-0586

"Hospitality is our motto"

October 5, 2004

Dear Sister Veronica:

This is in response to the two messages you left on our telephone answering machine today declining to meet with me for a few minutes after Mass some morning soon.

First, your assumption that I don't attend the monthly parish meetings shows how little you know about how seriously I take my responsibilities in this parish. While I am not the canonical pastor of St. Catherine Parish, the bishop has made it clear that I am expected to oversee matters as if I were the pastor. For that reason I am very concerned when anything happens that threatens the faith, morals, or good order of the people of this parish. Whether or not it is appreciated, I do my best to promote the cause of Christ and His Church among the people who come to our church for worship and spiritual guidance. I am willing to do more when I am able.

By the way, I would have been on a bigger spot if I had not been there, since I would have heard about your message only secondhand. I'm thankful that I was present so I had the opportunity to respond immediately and answer questions of those who heard what you had to say.

Second, Sister, I resented the one of you who had Roger read that note to the parish group, not because it put me on the spot, which it didn't, but first because I think anybody who wants to address a message to the parish should show me the courtesy of asking permission first. Second, your message made public a problem you have in accepting the authority of the bishop as Religious in his diocese. While some of our parishioners may agree with your cause and the manner in which you present it, more than a few were shocked, if not scandalized, by your apparent hatred for the bishops, priests, and Religious who have sexually, or otherwise, victimized young people. Many of us who have seen your web site and the way you especially attack Bishop O'Connell after all he did for you when you asked to become a part of the diocese of Knoxville have a hard time detecting any sign of a Christian attitude toward an admitted sinner who publicly asked forgiveness and is even now in a monastery doing penance.

Sister, when you called off our Tuesday Mass at the monastery stating: "Given what's going on, it would seem that none of the three of us would really enjoy sharing the Eucharist tomorrow "[your exact words], you again show you do not understand me. I don't know about you but when I offer Mass I don't do so to 'enjoy' it. I offer Mass to participate in the one, holy Sacrifice of the New Law in union with our Lord, Jesus Christ and to partake of the sacred Meal which the Eucharist is in fulfillment of the Lord's command. I offer each Mass for my good, the good of those present, for the universal Church, and especially for the intention for which it was requested. I can't imagine what you or Sister Angela have on your mind that would make you want to avoid joining me in Mass.

Sister Veronica, until recently I have always had the greatest respect for you and Sister Angela, but I cannot respect Religious who adamantly refuse to obey their bishop, and moreover publicly solicit the support of the laity. {Please note from the sisters: we believe this refers to our only request of the parish/laity: that those who care to, pray for us.}

Personally, I am able to distinguish between the sin and the sinner. Like our Lord, I hate the sin-no matter what it is-but I love the sinner-no matter what he has done.

Finally, Sister, I love both you and Sister Angela as consecrated Religious, my sisters in the family of God, and hope you can love me as your priest-brother who am struggling to keep the faith and fulfill the mission on which, unworthy as I have always been and always will be, I was sent over fifty-four years ago.

Pray for me as I do daily for both of you and, if you can, pray not only for the poor victims of abuse, which we all should do, but also for the victimizers.

As we said at the top of this "missive", we do not know for sure, but we feel as though we are being pressured to shut down the web site. We cannot, in good conscience, do so. We feel, in conscience, that for us to do so would be to "sell out" the survivors in order to feel more secure about "our future", our "position in the Church", our "well-being". Our only agenda is to be true to Christ by standing in support of victims and survivors, from the heart of Holy Mother Church, where lives her Son.

The willingness or need to "protect one’s position" seems a bag of thirty silver pieces that one pays...selling one’s soul in the paying. This need or willingness to protect one’s position at any cost is, we believe, a great part of the answer to how and why the kids have been so readily sold-out all these decades.

It surely appears that persons have looked the other way, one person at a time, and in so doing, allowed the perps to keep perpetrating and the perp-protectors to keep protecting the perps. Worse, but understandable given human nature, it seems that those persons have looked the other way, lest they suffer the losses that could otherwise happen to them.

What we are doing is simply standing with the survivors. We do not hate priests or other nuns or even the perpetrators. We pray for them. Our greatest focus and concern, however, is for their victims. It is what we promised God we would do. Primarily because these survivors seem to have such a starving need for someone in the Church to truly believe them and truly advocate for them. Secondarily, because we don’t see many "plain old regular nuns, priests, or bishops" doing that.

We ask only this: that any of you who care to, pray for us to remain true to God.
 


 

 

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